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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56168</link>
		<author>Ron</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56168</guid>
		<description>Hi Kirk,

After Carl asked if I could taste the difference, I started wondering if there really was a difference, or was it marketing hype.  That is an interesting test, with interesting results.  It is nice to hear you really found a difference.  Thanks for sharing!

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kirk,</p>
<p>After Carl asked if I could taste the difference, I started wondering if there really was a difference, or was it marketing hype.  That is an interesting test, with interesting results.  It is nice to hear you really found a difference.  Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Henke</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56107</link>
		<author>Kirk Henke</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56107</guid>
		<description>I with you Mom, I love the flaky rich buttery taste of Kings more so than the reds, they seem to be a little too firm or grainy to me... sorry Ron ;-)  But you're right, it all sounds good right now, we're just splinting hairs!  Just for kicks, I did a test a couple years ago and cooked up a Copper River, Kenai, and Iliamna Red. I grilled them at the same time.  I'm not even super taster but I could tell the Copper River Red had a better flavor and fat content than the rest.    The Kenai red was kinda bland.   Crazy isn't it, I thought it was kinda bunk before I did this test!?  Anyways, kudos to the fisherman, their lifestyle, and fresh fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I with you Mom, I love the flaky rich buttery taste of Kings more so than the reds, they seem to be a little too firm or grainy to me&#8230; sorry Ron <img src='http://www.my-photo-blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But you&#8217;re right, it all sounds good right now, we&#8217;re just splinting hairs!  Just for kicks, I did a test a couple years ago and cooked up a Copper River, Kenai, and Iliamna Red. I grilled them at the same time.  I&#8217;m not even super taster but I could tell the Copper River Red had a better flavor and fat content than the rest.    The Kenai red was kinda bland.   Crazy isn&#8217;t it, I thought it was kinda bunk before I did this test!?  Anyways, kudos to the fisherman, their lifestyle, and fresh fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56056</link>
		<author>Ron</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56056</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the clarification Beth.

I hope you get a lot of fish!

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Beth.</p>
<p>I hope you get a lot of fish!</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56049</link>
		<author>Beth Kelley</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56049</guid>
		<description>They did change the rules on fishwheels a few years ago and people who live in the local area are allowed to sell some fish under a federal permit. Federal permits allow some wheels to start running on May 15 and we started ours at midnight last night. No fish yet but we are hoping for a heavy king run to show up before the reds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did change the rules on fishwheels a few years ago and people who live in the local area are allowed to sell some fish under a federal permit. Federal permits allow some wheels to start running on May 15 and we started ours at midnight last night. No fish yet but we are hoping for a heavy king run to show up before the reds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56021</link>
		<author>Ron</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56021</guid>
		<description>Hey Carl, 

You can pillage my post anytime!  

I had a buddy who also thought it was crazy and started selling salmon he caught - that is until he sold to an uncover officer.

Thanks Poetryman!

You are right Beth - I didn't know how good I had it!  

Thanks Mom.  I give the edge to Reds, but now we are splitting hairs. :)  Either one for me!

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carl, </p>
<p>You can pillage my post anytime!  </p>
<p>I had a buddy who also thought it was crazy and started selling salmon he caught - that is until he sold to an uncover officer.</p>
<p>Thanks Poetryman!</p>
<p>You are right Beth - I didn&#8217;t know how good I had it!  </p>
<p>Thanks Mom.  I give the edge to Reds, but now we are splitting hairs. <img src='http://www.my-photo-blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Either one for me!</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56016</link>
		<author>Mom</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-56016</guid>
		<description>The most coveted of all the fish, and the one's they are going after first are the Copper River King Salmon.  I love catching them and eating them.  The Kings are certainly much better tasting than Reds in my humble opinion.

Mom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most coveted of all the fish, and the one&#8217;s they are going after first are the Copper River King Salmon.  I love catching them and eating them.  The Kings are certainly much better tasting than Reds in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>Mom</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Lunsford</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55981</link>
		<author>Beth Lunsford</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55981</guid>
		<description>Hi everybody! Shame on you Carl, for pillaging Rons' post!! It was quite interesting, though. Sorry, Ron! However, you do get all the credit for the great photo &#38; the interesting information that you shared with us. I bet growing up, you never realized how good you were eating!! Hope everyone is well &#38; having a great time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody! Shame on you Carl, for pillaging Rons&#8217; post!! It was quite interesting, though. Sorry, Ron! However, you do get all the credit for the great photo &amp; the interesting information that you shared with us. I bet growing up, you never realized how good you were eating!! Hope everyone is well &amp; having a great time.</p>
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		<title>By: poetryman69</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55965</link>
		<author>poetryman69</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55965</guid>
		<description>what a wonderful photograph.  looks bracing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a wonderful photograph.  looks bracing</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55937</link>
		<author>Carl</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55937</guid>
		<description>Hey Ron,

Thanks for the info - so all the boats I see on the river are non-commercial fishing people. Cool, thanks.

Yeah, you know, you're right (of course) the fish-wheels are non-commercial. I used to eat at this place in Chitina (right beside the Copper River, for those reading this other than Ron), just a little home-style dinette thing .. and she couldn't sell Copper River Red Salmon there, because it would require a commercial license, the same as these boat-folks who ship out literally tons and tons of fish, which was way more than she could afford - so if I wanted to buy Copper River Reds at an eatery on the Copper River, they had to have been caught by a commercial operator, shipped out, sold in the marketplace, shipped back to Chitina, where she could buy them and sell them - how crazy is that?

The other weird thing is that the fish on the east coast, would be fresher than buying it in an Anchorage restaurant .. because they're 4 hours ahead, on EST .. the fish get caught, sold and shipped, and are on the table on the east coast for dinner at 7pm .. which is 3pm here in AK .. so by the time someone in Anchorage sits down to eat their 'fresh fish' at 7pm Alaska-time, the folks in Atlanta have already finished and eating ice cream - so I'm told, anyway.

Crazy ole world, eh?

Sorry to kinda pillage your post like this Ron.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info - so all the boats I see on the river are non-commercial fishing people. Cool, thanks.</p>
<p>Yeah, you know, you&#8217;re right (of course) the fish-wheels are non-commercial. I used to eat at this place in Chitina (right beside the Copper River, for those reading this other than Ron), just a little home-style dinette thing .. and she couldn&#8217;t sell Copper River Red Salmon there, because it would require a commercial license, the same as these boat-folks who ship out literally tons and tons of fish, which was way more than she could afford - so if I wanted to buy Copper River Reds at an eatery on the Copper River, they had to have been caught by a commercial operator, shipped out, sold in the marketplace, shipped back to Chitina, where she could buy them and sell them - how crazy is that?</p>
<p>The other weird thing is that the fish on the east coast, would be fresher than buying it in an Anchorage restaurant .. because they&#8217;re 4 hours ahead, on EST .. the fish get caught, sold and shipped, and are on the table on the east coast for dinner at 7pm .. which is 3pm here in AK .. so by the time someone in Anchorage sits down to eat their &#8216;fresh fish&#8217; at 7pm Alaska-time, the folks in Atlanta have already finished and eating ice cream - so I&#8217;m told, anyway.</p>
<p>Crazy ole world, eh?</p>
<p>Sorry to kinda pillage your post like this Ron.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55930</link>
		<author>Ron</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55930</guid>
		<description>Hi Carl,

You know I don't think they are allowed in the actual river, in fact I think I have heard guys talking about markers or buoys marking the fishing boundary.  I do think they get as close to those as possible because the fish are more concentrated in those locations.

I didn't think commercial fishing is allowed with fish wheels either, in that I don't believe you are able to actually sell the fish.  Maybe that has changed.  We used to have access to a fish wheel.  Back then is just seemed like a lot of work, fishing was much funner.  Now that I have to pay for food, I would love to have access to one!

Cheers,

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p>You know I don&#8217;t think they are allowed in the actual river, in fact I think I have heard guys talking about markers or buoys marking the fishing boundary.  I do think they get as close to those as possible because the fish are more concentrated in those locations.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think commercial fishing is allowed with fish wheels either, in that I don&#8217;t believe you are able to actually sell the fish.  Maybe that has changed.  We used to have access to a fish wheel.  Back then is just seemed like a lot of work, fishing was much funner.  Now that I have to pay for food, I would love to have access to one!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55902</link>
		<author>Carl</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55902</guid>
		<description>Hey Ron,

Thanks - I'll have to check it out closely and see if I can taste the difference - I do like some fresh salmon.

Do the commercial fishing boats go up the river though, or just around the mouth? Is the only commercial fishing in the river the fish wheels?

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron,</p>
<p>Thanks - I&#8217;ll have to check it out closely and see if I can taste the difference - I do like some fresh salmon.</p>
<p>Do the commercial fishing boats go up the river though, or just around the mouth? Is the only commercial fishing in the river the fish wheels?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55893</link>
		<author>Ron</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55893</guid>
		<description>Hi Carl,

As I understand it, the bow-pickers like you see in the lower left, fish in the ocean at the mouth of the Copper River, in shallow, tricky waters full of hidden sand bars, unpredictable waves and currents.  They are small boats, usually with only one person on board, and they are jet powered (no prop) so they are able to run in very little water.

I believe I can taste the difference, but really any Red Salmon is good.  I think a lot of times the difference in taste is how the salmon is cooked - most people tend to over cook it a bit.  That Red Salmon is really good canned as well if you like fish.

That is a cool story on the restaurant.

Hi Richard - Yeah it seems like you can't go too wrong with wild salmon!

Thanks,

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p>As I understand it, the bow-pickers like you see in the lower left, fish in the ocean at the mouth of the Copper River, in shallow, tricky waters full of hidden sand bars, unpredictable waves and currents.  They are small boats, usually with only one person on board, and they are jet powered (no prop) so they are able to run in very little water.</p>
<p>I believe I can taste the difference, but really any Red Salmon is good.  I think a lot of times the difference in taste is how the salmon is cooked - most people tend to over cook it a bit.  That Red Salmon is really good canned as well if you like fish.</p>
<p>That is a cool story on the restaurant.</p>
<p>Hi Richard - Yeah it seems like you can&#8217;t go too wrong with wild salmon!</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55880</link>
		<author>Richard Wong</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55880</guid>
		<description>Sounds good. With all those Omega-3's you've eaten, I'll probably expire before you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good. With all those Omega-3&#8217;s you&#8217;ve eaten, I&#8217;ll probably expire before you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55869</link>
		<author>Carl</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.my-photo-blog.com/copper-river-reds#comment-55869</guid>
		<description>Hey Ron,

Cool, nice post. A couple of questions:

* Do these boats fish the river, or just the harbor at the entrance to the river?
* Do you actually taste any difference between Copper River Reds and other Red Salmon?

When I was in Atlanta, there was a highend restaurant right across the river from my place that had Copper River Reds every May - I'd go right by the place on my run, and see the sign the day they posted it, "Copper River Red Salmon Available NOW!" .. it always brought a smile to my face, as it reminded me of where I'd be a month from then. :)

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron,</p>
<p>Cool, nice post. A couple of questions:</p>
<p>* Do these boats fish the river, or just the harbor at the entrance to the river?<br />
* Do you actually taste any difference between Copper River Reds and other Red Salmon?</p>
<p>When I was in Atlanta, there was a highend restaurant right across the river from my place that had Copper River Reds every May - I&#8217;d go right by the place on my run, and see the sign the day they posted it, &#8220;Copper River Red Salmon Available NOW!&#8221; .. it always brought a smile to my face, as it reminded me of where I&#8217;d be a month from then. <img src='http://www.my-photo-blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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